Re: Gravity devices enhancing Magnetic devices vice versa
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| The resonance I refer to is very general. In the case of the simple pendulum, the resonance frequency is the oscillation frequency.
In the case of a Pulsed Rotation with say, 8 Pulse points, the Pulsed frequency is 8 time the rotational speed. If this Pulsed frequency matches the characteristics of the device such as wheel diameter, external load, bearing friction, air resistance, etc. the system can achieve resonance. (A small Pulse force can maintain the speed of the rotation.) The Pulsed rotation will Lead Out gravitational and/or electron motion energy. Tuning for resonance is often 'hit or miss' via multiple trials. Some luck is involved. Addition of measuring instruments could shift the resonance point. Lawrence Tseung Resonance Leads Out tuning attempts |
Imagine a magnet resonating between 2 thin films of magnet. I have exaggerated it a bit in this image.
The Newman machine now leads out centripetal force over distance. I was also thinking that an imbalance big enough to slow the motor almost to standstill should lead out gravitational momentum. Close to zero m/s the pulse is the most efficient. It also increases the duration of the sweet spot.
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ABSTRACT Cheating time by electromagnetically collapsing a repulsive permanentmagnetic field utilizing a coil. http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/cheating-time/text/cheating-time |
ATTRACT-ATTRACT and the Joe Newman motor
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I'll offer you my explanation of the Joseph Newman overunity motor. I suspect its operation is far simpler than Newman would have you believe. I've not seen anything that convinces me that Newman himself truly fathoms the operation of his device, but it is really quite simple as we shall see: To the unfamiliar, Joseph Newman's overunity motor is similar in many ways to a conventional DC electric motor, i.e. it has a commutator, a field coil, permanent magnets, a shaft, and is powered by a battery. But there are several novel aspects of Newman's motor, as follows: His motor features a stationary field coil, with shaft-mounted permanent magnets as the rotor. The field coil is an air-core inductor. The field windings are an unusually large amount of wire, on the order of 55 or 90 miles of magnet wire in a typical configuration. The power supply is a very high voltage DC battery configuration, for example 1500 volts of lead-acid or zinc-carbon batteries in series. The rotating permanent magnets are usually quite large, reaching several hundred pounds in some configurations. His motor employs an unusual phase-angle between the commutator and the rotor's permanent magnet poles. He uses a special, partitioned commutator as a design enhancement, but this is not critical for an understanding of the operation. If an engineer were to design a conventional motor, he would probably not employ ANY of the above parameters, as they are far from optimal in motor design as we would normally know it. However, when all of these things are put together, a special thing can happen, as I will now describe: (Power is applied, and Newman gives the motor a manual push to give the massive permanent magnet rotor its initial motion.) The commutator directs battery power to the large air core field coil, and the magnetic field expands. This gives the permanent magnets a push, sustaining their rotation. The field completely expands, and the magnets continue to rotate under their stored angular momentum, approaching the point where the Permanent Magnets' field is perpendicular to the field from the coil. Here, the commutator disconnects the battery from the field coil, and the incredibly deep electromagnetic field collapses - yielding a MASSIVE KICKBACK spark, which is discharged back into the battery, in the polarity of recharge. However, the rotating magnets are still in motion and by now have swung into position well beyond perpendicular, and what happens is THE FIELD FROM THE COIL COLLAPSES EVEN FARTHER THAN IT HAD ORIGINALLY EXPANDED! This causes the recharging kickback spark to be LARGER THAN THE SUPPLY PULSE which was required to expand the field to begin with! This is possible because the field generated by the air-core inductor is so deep, that there is enough time for the permanent magnets to rotate into opposition while the field is still collapsing. (Now, who would have thought of that ? ) At this point, the commutator has turned 180 degrees, and the second half of the cycle executes in an identical manner, but of course with the poles reversed. So if you can imagine a device where the "action" and the "reaction" are in the same direction, that would be a good trick, woudn't it? It would be easy to extract energy from a field such as gravity or magnetism if we had such a device, right? That is precisely what is happening with respect to the permanent magnets in the Newman motor! The EM field expands to ATTRACT the permanent magnets in one direction, meanwhile the magnets rotate, then the EM field begins to collapse, but because of the new position of the rotor this collapse is now also in the ATTRACT direction with respect to the permanent magnets. We are only familiar with attract-repel processes, however this is an actual ATTRACT-ATTRACT process. One more time... The action & reaction are the expansion & subsequent collapse of the electromagnetic field. The motor is merely arranged in such a way that both this action & reaction happen in the same direction with respect to the magnet! Free energy from magnets The key design concept is that the air core field must be sufficiently intense, that its collapse will be slow enough for the permanent magnets to physically rotate into an opposing polar orientaton. I say there should be no reason why someone cannot engineer a much smaller, higher-RPM unit which functions just as well or better than anything Joe Newman has come up with. Newman's protypes, although more than 100% efficient, are nonetheless wasting vast amounts of energy with their crude bulky design and high-voltage operation, which results in lost voltage from arcing at the homemade commutator. But even with all these problems, his motor achieves overunity! Isn't that something? I wonder what could be achieved with a really good design? The "period" of the field just needs to be in tune with the rate of rotation, and the phase of the commutator needs to be appropriate for what is taking place. Newman's own commutators employ extra segments, so that the field is energized in steps, with spacers to reduce the arcing, but as I say, this is a refinement to his design after overunity was already achieved. I don't believe this would even be necessary for a lower voltage, higher-RPM unit. If the voltage were sufficiently lowered, one could further improve the design by adding rectifiers, which is a luxury Joe Newman can only dream of. I personally think he's still using high voltage because he doesn't understand the issue with the period of the air core field or the underlying "attract-attract" principle which makes the whole thing work. That's about it, and we didn't even need to invent any Physics to describe a working overunity device!  )
Douglas B. Renner http://www.keelynet.com/interact/arc_1_98-7_98/00001944.htm |
That was a most interesting post.
Comparing with Sung Motor
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg44166.html#msg44166
The scene is Richard and Nancy at the home of Tseung.
Richard: "Looks like some members of the overunity.com forum are interested in the Sung device. I saw that 40 minute video and was convinced that the device worked. You can use rapidshare as the attach file limit here is only 12MB."
Tseung: "That is not a problem. I shall zip the 96 MB file. It should be read with Windows Media Player. Before I do that, I shall quote the warning from the Inventor and the Chinese Police. That video was used by some unauthorized persons to solicit funds. It MUST NOT be used for that purpose again. It may be used for scientific discussions only."
Nancy: "Can you repeat the story of why Sung gave up the development of his inventions? The video seemed to indicate excellent working prototypes?"
Tseung smiled: "I shall repeat the story one more time. Note that I use the term story because I was not personally involved. The story was that Dr. Liang Sing Yan heard about the Sung Invention and wanted to use that invention to recharge his battery car. They worked together for a few months.
Dr. Liang then got the brilliant idea that he could rotate the inner cylinder with ICs. He did not need to use the permanent magnets and the complex setup of the Sung invention. He succeeded. All the potential investors for Sung changed ship. Sung was obviously unhappy. However, as a scientist, he accepted the fact that his invention was not as good. He abandoned further development on his devices.
We also have the video on the Dr. Liang Car. That video was definitely used by criminals to solicit funds. Some of these criminals are in jail now.
Mr. Chao did a big improvement to overcome the hill-climbing drawback of the Liang car using banks of batteries. That improved car traveled 1,500 kilometers to Beijing with 8 newspapers and televisions following the journey in 2006. We have two videos. One of them was done by the Chinese Official Television Station CCTV.
I shall post these videos when appropriate. Here is the first one. It will be available for 90 days. The download time is approximately 1 hour. The link is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/48650021/Sung.ZIP.html
Lawrence Tseung
The third generation Cosmic Energy Machines Lead Out abandonment of the first and second generation.
Comments on the Sung Motor
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg44171.html#msg44171
Some previous comments on the Sung Video:
(1) It is in Chinese. Can you translate it for us?
Try to get a friend who can speak Chinese. If a beer cannot do it, try wine and dine.
(2) It is too long. Can you edit it to about 2 minutes?
I do not have the video editing tools and I do not know how to edit video. Some also demanded an unedited video to reduce possibility of fake.
(3) Can you summarize the video in a couple of sentences?
The first generation used a 3-cylinder setup with axle vertical. It generated 400 watts - enough to light a bulb, power a fan and an electric drill. The machine needed initial power to start but the power can be unplugged after starting. The second generation with more electronics has the axle horizontal. It generated 20,000 watts (but very unstable with burning of electronics and coils frequently.)
(4) Can I believe all the comments in the video?
Ignore all theoretical comments on the source of energy. Sung was wrong in saying that the energy came from the permanent magnets. He now believes in the Lee-Tseung theory. Sung-Lee-Tseung are co-inventors of another flux only invention.
(5) Should I invest in the Sung devices?
Wait until you have seen the Dr. Liang and Chao videos. The best way is to visit Tsing Hua University or General Magnetic 磁普and see the many working prototypes first. The Chinese Cosmic Energy Developers with working prototypes are now highly valued in China. The well-known ones have much funding support.
Lawrence Tseung
Working Prototypes Lead Out Funding
