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Something like that....
Maybe you can copy and past the descriptions here and add your own words to it.
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl
I put it in this post.
http://forum.go-here.nl/posting.php?mode=quote&p=176
My understanding of the Liang Machine
1. It is basically a pulsed rotation device. In the Lee- Tseung Theory, pulse rotation can lead out gravitational energy.
2. It uses intelligent chips to achieve the pulse rotation. These intelligent chips can be programmed to exhibit magnetic north pole, south pole or no pole at all.
3. The energy that can be lead out depends on the rate of rotation, the number of intelligent chips, the diameter and the mass of the rotating cylinder, the proximity of the intelligent chips, etc.
4. It uses only gravitational energy because when we tilt the axle from horizontal to vertical we get reduce energy output.
5. Liang got his China patent even though he stated that his machine was a perpetual device because he had working demonstration prototype.
6. The reason for his not demonstrating his prototype on December 2004 was the lawsuit from unhappy investors. I believe that demonstration could be very successful because Professor Woo, a well respected scientist (who helps to develop the first Chinese atomic bomb) examined the working prototype.
7. Mr. Chao overcame the hill- climbing drawback of the Liang car with banks of batteries. His car was certified officially by the Chinese authority. The rating was 8.60 kilowatt hour per one hundred kilometers. This is probably the best official record for all electric cars.
8. According to Lee Cheung Kin who spent a week working with Mr. Chao, that rating can even be better (zero or negative). Negative means the car can generate extra energy for other appliances.
9. The only explanation is that the Laing or Chao Car used the Lead Out gravitational energy. Both cars confirmed the correctness of the Lee – Tseung Theory.
10. The engine can be use as a pure electricity generator. It will require a battery to power the intelligent chips and to get the stating motor to rotate the cylinder to the designed speed. I believe this is being implemented. In some of the past implementation, the engine burned after a few days. Tseung explained that there must be a monitoring and control mechanism to adjust the output power when the external load changes.
11. I believe I understand the theory. I don ‘ t know the exact intelligent chips used, their arrangement and programming. I can wait to buy a Liang or Chao car to disassemble and examining it legally later.
I shall be willing to discuss this more in this forum. I shall also willing to participate in a team to understand or even replicate the engine.
The main reason those chips work so well is because coils do create magnetic fields but those magnetic fields induct back into the coil creating a current in opposite direction. This current then creates a magnetic field in the coil with opposite poles! It keeps bumping into it-self.
So, when assuming a motor consuming 380 V 50 actually uses something like 10 V 50 A
This means the 19 000 W it consumes really generates no more as 500 W
So if this assumed ratio would be correct, a really efficient 25 W setup would generate the equivalent of 1 kW.
Vehicles would loose weight then they need an equally smaller motor again.
Just like the coil.
Dr. Liang Patent information
The Chinese Document of the Dr. Liang Patent (7 pages):
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45026.html#msg45026
Page 1
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45192.html#msg45192
Page 2
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45197.html#msg45197
Page 3
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45474.html#msg45474
Page 4
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45479.html#msg45479
Pages 5, 6 and 7
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45650.html#msg45650
Pulse rotate explains the Chas Campbell device
Can we use mechanical means to pulse rotate a wheel?
The anser is YES. The Chas Campbell is an example. From his published information, 3 stage wheels are used. The Electricity Magnifier at Tsing Hua uses 3 cylinders.
The Lee-Tseung theory is confirmed one more time.
More confirmation of the Lee-Tseung theory to come
The videos are available. In particular, one of the video was done by CCTV10. CCTV10 is the Official China News TV station. Lee Cheung Kin is working with Chao to promote the 'purely electric car' to Cosmic Energy Machine car.
Other likely confirmations will be from the Milkovic Pendulum; the Chas Campbell device, the Joseph Newman motor; the Bedini motor, the 225 HP pulse motor etc.
No other theory can explain the source of energy for this range of inventions.
must accomplish a clear list of the Chinese inventors
With each name there should be a short description.
Clicking the title above the description should bring up a page with everything there is to know about the state of the invention.
Like I'm working on here.
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl
It doesn't matter to me where you post the list. But we need some order.
Re: must accomplish a clear list of the Chinese inventors
| gaby de wilde wrote: |
| We must accomplish a clear list of the Chinese inventors you have mentioned.
With each name there should be a short description. Clicking the title above the description should bring up a page with everything there is to know about the state of the invention. Like I'm working on here. http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl It doesn't matter to me where you post the list. But we need some order. |
Great Idea, Gaby. The following is a start:
(1) Sung Tim Fat 宋添發 - First and Second Generation of Cosmic Energy machines
(2) Liang Xingren 梁星人 - Pulse Rotation with ICs
(3) Chao Ching San 曹青山 - Improvement on Liang with banks of Batteries
(4) Lee Cheung Kin and Lawrence Tseung 李長建，蔣振寧- Lead Out theory
(5) Tsing Hua University 清華大學 - Electricity Magnifier that can magnify 30 times.
(6) Wini Woo and Bill Fong - The Flying Saucer
(7) Wang Shum Ho 王沈河 - The Ferro-liquid + permanent Magnets Electricity Generator
I shall also list the over 40 inventors related to Cosmic Energy Machines from the China Patent Database. I have not checked every one of them yet.
Lawrence Tseung
Good suggestions Lead Out hard work
CoE discussions again
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg46633.html#msg46633
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Quote from: shruggedatlas on August 30, 2007, 03:07:07 AM
This is my entire point. If gravitational energy cannot be exhausted, then extracting energy from gravity does violate the principle of COE. Where is the extra energy coming from, if no matter or other type of energy is being depleted?
If you want to go ahead and say that your theory violates the principle of conservation of energy, then fine, say that. I would be skeptical of the design, but hey, if it works, then I am wrong. What I am objecting to is the dishonesty of claiming your theory does not violate the principle of CoE, when it clearly does.
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Dear shruggedatlas,
Let me first state CoE as I understand it. The Law of Conservation of Energy states that Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Energy can only change from one form to another. I agree with this statement.
When we apply this Law, we need to consider a closed system. We must consider the Total Energy Going into this system (The Input Side). There may be work done; energy loss (e.g. energy changed to heat); and Energy Going out from this system.
Mathematically, the following equation is useful to us:
The Total Energy In = The Total Energy Out (include work done, loss)
In the case of a boat in calm water and good sunshine, the Total Energy Going into the system should be (at least):
(1) Human Muscle Energy
(2) Energy due to Sunlight (a form of electromagnetic wave)
(3) Energy due to Wind (assumed none in calm waters)
(4) Energy due to Current (assumed none in calm waters)
(5) Energy due to gravitational attraction (*** this was often ignored as non-relevant)
(6) Energy due to electron motion (*** this was often ignored as non-relevant)
Now, focus on the concept of a closed system. A person might know a little about science. He might ignored items (2) to (6) because he could not use them. He might wrongly apply the CoE and concluded that he must use muscle energy to move the boat. He might even wrongly claim that he was in a closed system.
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. A top scientist looking at the above scenario will say, "The boat is NEVER in a closed system." The person should never claim that he applied the Law of Conservation of Energy in a closed system.
If a way were found to use (2) Sunlight, CoE would not be violated. It was never applicable in the first place!
If a way were found to use (5) Gravitational Energy, CoE would not be violated. It was never applicable in the first place!
If a way were found to use (6) Electron Motion Energy, CoE would not be violated. It was never applicable in the first place!
Please go to the Http://www.steorn.com/forum and search for CoE under topics. Thousands of posts were devoted to this topic. You can refine the search by looking at the ltseung888 posts.
Regards and enjoy your reading,
Lawrence Tseung
CoE questions Lead Out thousands of posts in the Steorn Forum
CoE discussions again
Pretty Girl A: "Let us discuss the CoE again."
Pretty Girl B giggled: "What is the new angle this time? There were thousands of posts in steorn.com. Those interested could read them."
Handsome Boy A held the hands of Pretty Girl C: "This time we want to do some calculations using the boat in calm water and good sunshine scenario."
If we ignore sources of energy (2) to (6) of the previous post and focus on human muscle energy only, we can apply the CoE as follows:
Input Energy = Work done + Loss + Output Energy
Input Energy = Human Muscle Energy
Work Done = Useful work accomplished
= Force of paddle x distance moved by boat
Loss = Water Splash etc.
Output Energy = assumed none in this example
The equation is useful for us to estimate how many persons we need to put on the boat to cover a certain distance in a given time. This is a valid use of the CoE.
Handsome Boy B: "If we know how to use Solar Energy and put in the necessary mechanisms, the equation changes."
Input Energy = Work done + Loss + Output Energy
Input Energy = Solar Energy
Work Done = Useful work accomplished
= Force of Propeller x distance moved by boat
Loss = Water Splash etc.
Output Energy = assumed none in this example
This equation is useful in estimating the size and number of solar panels we need to use. This is a valid use of the CoE.
Pretty Girl C put her head on the shoulder of Handsome Boy A: "I can see the new angle now. If we can use gravitational energy via pulsed rotation, the equation becomes:"
Input Energy = Work done + Loss + Output Energy
Input Energy = Gravitational Energy
Work Done = Useful work accomplished
= Force of Propeller x distance moved by boat
Loss = Water Splash etc.
Output Energy = assumed none in this example
This equation is useful in estimating the size and number of gravitational pulse motors we need to use. This is a valid use of the CoE.
Pretty Girl A: "It boils down to the simple question of - Can we Lead Out Gravitational Energy? If we can, there is NO violation of CoE."
